Comments on: Money Merge Account Analysis Pt 30 http://www.joetaxpayer.com/money-merge-account-analysis-pt-30/ Financial Commentary For The Average Joe Thu, 09 Feb 2012 00:23:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Craig Hansen http://www.joetaxpayer.com/money-merge-account-analysis-pt-30/comment-page-1/#comment-4297 Craig Hansen Thu, 23 Apr 2009 17:57:28 +0000 http://www.blog.joetaxpayer.com/?p=1199#comment-4297 Jeff, The answer lies in the money you're using to service your other debts. The MMA sends those monthly funds to the mortgage one those smaller debts are retired. Assuming Joe is right above (not a stretch), the MMA analysis results require an extra $543 per month and you only have $137, then in round numbers, your other debts (car, credit cards, etc.) consume at least $406 per month. Nothing here is rocket science. Post your MMA analysis if you want an exact reason to take back to your friend. Regards, Craig Jeff,

The answer lies in the money you’re using to service your other debts. The MMA sends those monthly funds to the mortgage one those smaller debts are retired.

Assuming Joe is right above (not a stretch), the MMA analysis results require an extra $543 per month and you only have $137, then in round numbers, your other debts (car, credit cards, etc.) consume at least $406 per month.

Nothing here is rocket science.

Post your MMA analysis if you want an exact reason to take back to your friend.

Regards,
Craig

]]> By: JOE http://www.joetaxpayer.com/money-merge-account-analysis-pt-30/comment-page-1/#comment-4280 JOE Tue, 21 Apr 2009 22:09:20 +0000 http://www.blog.joetaxpayer.com/?p=1199#comment-4280 Jeff, let me be really objective here. $138K, 5.5%, 11.8 years, would requie $1326.95/mo payment. This is an extra $543.40/mo that has to come from somewhere. I'd love to see the sheet, and will email you this reply as well. Even in the best case, MMA can capture a high rate on your idle cash, so if you have $10,000/mo coming and going, MMA will gain you $50/mo. That's an exaggeration, but nowhere near the $500+ your friend is claiming. You friend is misguided. He should not sell something he doesn't understand. Joe Jeff, let me be really objective here. $138K, 5.5%, 11.8 years, would requie $1326.95/mo payment. This is an extra $543.40/mo that has to come from somewhere. I’d love to see the sheet, and will email you this reply as well. Even in the best case, MMA can capture a high rate on your idle cash, so if you have $10,000/mo coming and going, MMA will gain you $50/mo. That’s an exaggeration, but nowhere near the $500+ your friend is claiming. You friend is misguided. He should not sell something he doesn’t understand.
Joe

]]> By: Jeff http://www.joetaxpayer.com/money-merge-account-analysis-pt-30/comment-page-1/#comment-4278 Jeff Tue, 21 Apr 2009 20:11:27 +0000 http://www.blog.joetaxpayer.com/?p=1199#comment-4278 Joe--I really appreciate all the time and research you have invested in MMAs. I have a friend who is an agent and has been telling me about it. My friend is not a liar and he's not crazy. However, as you mention many times, he uses only hyperbole to sell the product, but I believe he truly believes it helps people. However, he can't explain to me how it does what it does. I have the analysis sheet that he gave me and it is compelling, which is why I haven't said no yet. If it can do what this analysis sheet says it can do, with no HELOC, and only using my checking and savings account and a credit card, it really is an amazing product. But I'm not going to buy it until somebody can explain it to me. It proposes to take my $138,000 30-yr mortgage (5.5% APR) that I just got in December, and pay it off in 11.8 years with only $137 of discretionary income a month. That doesn't make any sense. If I make an extra payment of $137 a month, a regular amortization calculator shows it would cut my mortgage down to 20 years, but with the same discretionary income per month, MMA can beat it by over 8 years?? I saw your previous posts where you beat MMA by doing it yourself--can you determine a way to beat 11.8 years with only $137 discretionary per month. My friend emphasizes that MMA doesn't rely on discretionary alone, but several other factors that, again, he can't explain. I feel like I can't say yes, but can't say no either, not with this kind of possibility. Has anybody contacted you and stated they bought the product and it didn't do what the analysis sheet said it could do? UFirst guarantees it or your money back. $137 x 12 is $1644. Yet, somehow, this analysis sheet pays an additional $7k-$10k in principal per year. I asked my friend how this was possible without adding a huge amount of debt to the credit card? He said my credit card would be paid off every month in full. I've seen many posts where people say you can do yourself for free what MMA wants $3500 to help you do, but there is no way I can figure out how to pay off $138,000 in 11.8 years with only $137 discretionary. I'd be happy to send you the analysis sheet if you want. Take care, Joe–I really appreciate all the time and research you have invested in MMAs. I have a friend who is an agent and has been telling me about it. My friend is not a liar and he’s not crazy. However, as you mention many times, he uses only hyperbole to sell the product, but I believe he truly believes it helps people. However, he can’t explain to me how it does what it does. I have the analysis sheet that he gave me and it is compelling, which is why I haven’t said no yet. If it can do what this analysis sheet says it can do, with no HELOC, and only using my checking and savings account and a credit card, it really is an amazing product. But I’m not going to buy it until somebody can explain it to me. It proposes to take my $138,000 30-yr mortgage (5.5% APR) that I just got in December, and pay it off in 11.8 years with only $137 of discretionary income a month. That doesn’t make any sense. If I make an extra payment of $137 a month, a regular amortization calculator shows it would cut my mortgage down to 20 years, but with the same discretionary income per month, MMA can beat it by over 8 years?? I saw your previous posts where you beat MMA by doing it yourself–can you determine a way to beat 11.8 years with only $137 discretionary per month. My friend emphasizes that MMA doesn’t rely on discretionary alone, but several other factors that, again, he can’t explain. I feel like I can’t say yes, but can’t say no either, not with this kind of possibility. Has anybody contacted you and stated they bought the product and it didn’t do what the analysis sheet said it could do? UFirst guarantees it or your money back. $137 x 12 is $1644. Yet, somehow, this analysis sheet pays an additional $7k-$10k in principal per year. I asked my friend how this was possible without adding a huge amount of debt to the credit card? He said my credit card would be paid off every month in full. I’ve seen many posts where people say you can do yourself for free what MMA wants $3500 to help you do, but there is no way I can figure out how to pay off $138,000 in 11.8 years with only $137 discretionary. I’d be happy to send you the analysis sheet if you want. Take care,

]]> By: Craig Hansen http://www.joetaxpayer.com/money-merge-account-analysis-pt-30/comment-page-1/#comment-4148 Craig Hansen Thu, 16 Apr 2009 21:46:25 +0000 http://www.blog.joetaxpayer.com/?p=1199#comment-4148 Joe, your series has been instrumental in helping people avoid the MMA. A little knowledge goes a long way, doesn't it? Thanks for your help. Joe, your series has been instrumental in helping people avoid the MMA. A little knowledge goes a long way, doesn’t it?

Thanks for your help.

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