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Roth Conversion Fail

If you read any financial blogs or magazines, there’s no getting away from one topic. The Roth IRA, and the Roth conversion in particular. I continue to write about this because I think the choice isn’t always so clear cut. It’s rarely a “no-brainer” to convert and be certain it was the right decision.

I read and recently rediscovered an article in Kiplinger magazine titled “How to Finance a Roth Conversion.” Sorry, that title alone is enough to scare me. It implies a number of things. First, this couple in the article aren’t particularly liquid, they don’t have enough to pay the taxes on the conversion out of pocket. Second, they plan to convert so much that there will be a big tax bill. In fact, the amount they are considering converting is $250K, and it will result in a $100K tax bill, putting them into the 35% bracket. One planner advises that they proceed with the conversion splitting the income over two years on their tax return. This would make the first bill (say $50K) due in April 2012. He says they need to just save about $2K/mo from now until then, to pay this tax bill. He ignores the potential penalty and interest for underwithholding, and does a better job ignoring the next $50K bill that would be due only 12 months later.

Another planner thinks this couple should convert a bit at a time and pay [taxes] as they go. A more level-headed approach I’d say.

For this couple, the question of conversion is motivated by “higher taxes are coming.” Now, that may be, I really can’t say. One thing that does go in this couple’s favor is that they are both government employees. They are in a group that tends to have a better pension than most. Many public companies have discontinued their defined benefit plan, in some cases stopping further accrual, in others, cashing out their employees with a transfer to an IRA account. The question that remains for me regarding this couple, who are in their thirties and have an infant daughter – what do thing the chances are that you will both remain employed, full time, from now until the day you retire? Robert Burns’ To a Mouse contained the line “The best laid schemes o’ mice an’ men / Gang aft agley.” I wish this couple well, but a lower bracket between now and retirement isn’t necessarily due to a negative event. Maybe one of them wishes to stay home for a period after the birth of their next child. Maybe a new position becomes available in a state that has no income tax and they avoid the near 6% Virginia state tax. Time will tell, of course, this is just one example of those who are rushing into a decision I believe they’ll regret. Next week, I’ll offer an alternate approach that would save this couple quite a bit on their taxes.

Joe

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An Oil-Leak Capping Roundup

Let’s start this week with Neal Frankle’s How To Convince Your Spouse You Need A Budget. Neal offers some great advice that I’ll admit, I can use myself. As retirement draws near, for me a budget needs to be discussed for two reasons. First, to be sure we are on track, saving enough to retire on time, give or take. Second, to understand what our spending limits are during those retirement years. I’ve done a decent job running the numbers on my own, but it’s way past the time that Jane and I sit down to discuss this. Thanks, Neal, I’ll let you know how it goes. If I ring your bell, and ask to sleep on the couch a few nights, you’ll know I messed up.

B Simple also wrote about spouses in Financially Prepare your Spouse in order to Simplify. B suggests documenting the who, where, why of all your finances, so if the financial CFO of the house meets his/her maker first, the surviving spouse will have a simple job of continuing on plan. A  post you shouldn’t ignore.

Jason at one money design answers What are the Benefits of a 15 Year Fixed-Rate Mortgage? I think I know, but I never tire of seeing how others feel about this, and often, I learn something new. Nothing like a fresh spin on this topic.

Kevin at Out Of Your Rut tells us about Tax Benefits of Homeownership – Three Reasons Its Over-rated. Kevin helps bring to light an overlooked aspect of the tax code – that for many, the tax deduction on their mortgage interest is either reduced or is of no help to them at all. It’s unfortunate this is the case, but there’s nothing simple about our tax code, it takes a bit of understanding to benefit from the myriad of rules.

Am I Living In A Parallel Universe? asks Financial Samurai.Sam sees increased traffic, long waits at expensive restaurants, and brisk business at his local BMW dealer. Which may very well raise new and troubling questions. Are we in a recovery and no one told us?

Next, a post on Buying a Car: Is It Wrong to Buy Foreign? Here, Balance Junkie asks what makes a car foreign, the location of the manufacturer’s headquarters, where it’s built, where the parts are made? Good question, and in this “world is flat”economy, a tough one to answer.

Last, this week, a pair of Estate Tax posts from two of my favorite Tweeps (fellow Twitter users.) First is Taxgirl’s Fix the Tax Code Friday: Federal Estate Tax. Here, Taxgirl comments on one of the proposals congress is pondering to update the estate tax rules. Then Kay Bell tells us how the  Estate tax [is] inching along going into further depth how the code might change moving forward. Both articles are great reads if you would like to understand the estate tax future.

A really excellent week of financial blog reading.
Enjoy the week ahead.
Joe

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Obama’s Roadblock

The recession is supposed to be behind us. Yet, it doesn’t quite feel like we a re in a recovery just yet, does it? I remember stagflation, that odd mix of unemployment and inflation, this sure isn’t it. Whatever we are in, we need to get out. Soon.

Joe

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Money Merge Account Analysis Pt 35

The Pyramid is Collapsing. And I’m happy to show you what a collapsing pyramid looks like courtesy of my Fellow Nay-sayer, Tracy Coenan. At her Fraud Files Blog, she recently posted;

Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 10:59 PM
Subject: Proposal for a New Company!
From: Richard Schaffer
Everyone,

In lieu of all the challenges and difficulties that we have all been struggling with over the last 12-18/m,  I genuinely believe that it is time that we all accept a few very harsh realities. But before I get into that, the primary reason for this e-mail is that I have an idea, a proposal really, that I truly believe with everything in my soul can absolutely change the direction of our Company moving forward!

What I am about to say is not intended for anyone (nor has it been shared with anyone) not included in this e-mail. But I think it’s time that someone said what everyone is already thinking – but everyone is apparently afraid to actually say out loud. Let me begin by trying to set the stage with 10 main points regarding what is really happening, how everyone (actually) feels, and what is going to inevitably occur if we don’t take some very drastic measures fast!

The ‘Network’ is dead, and it’s not coming back. This is not intended to be negative, it is simple being honest and realistic. I don’t think it even matters if we launch V5, complete ‘Step’ 3, change the Company/Product name or change our comp plan or the MLM commission platform. There has simply been too much damage done for too long. Read the rest here if you wish at Tracy’s Ufirst Financial: This is what a collapsing pyramid looks like.

Amazing that this program is still being sold. It’s nearly two years that I’ve been writing about this scam, and despite my inclination to just call it quits, it’s tough to ignore a scam like this as it offends my senses. The sellers of this scam are taking advantage of people’s ignorance. The letter excepted above is at least an indication the end is near. Let’s hope so.

Joe

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A Bastille Day Roundup

You know that July 14th is Bastille Day, and by now, I imagine you’ve made some big plans.

Me neither. I don’t know as much about history as I’d like to and everything I know about Bastille Day I either know from Les Miserables (The Broadway show, not the Book) or from the Rush song. Meanwhile, I’ve been keeping up with my financial reading, and am ready to share my best reads this week.

First, Neal Frankle asks and answers the question Should You Form An Irrevocable Life Insurance Trust? A Surprising Answer. I’d bet a number of his readers were surprised. Me, not so much, as taxes, retirement, and estate planning are my focus. What did surprise me, in a good way, is how well Neal is able to explain a pretty complex topic. If you and your spouse are likely to have assets of over $500K as you get older, give this post a read. Tell him Joe sent you.

At Consumer Boomer, Junior discusses Roth IRA vs. 401(k) How to Decide. This is one of the top financial dilemmas this year, it would seem. and I’d suggest that before this year comes to a close, you learn all you can about how this may affect your decisions.

Next, Shawn Watson answers Why is Debt Really Decreasing? Is it really due to the new frugality or can there be something else going on?

Last week my tax crush, Kay Bell offered one of a series of mid year tax tips. This one was Midyear tax tip #9: Bunch your deductions.In 2010, the standard deduction for a couple filing joint is $11,400. Read Kay’s strategy for bunching your payments so even if till now you might have had $10/yr and could itemize, you might some bucks to be saved with her advice.

On No Credit Needed, I enjoyed Living Debt Free – Part 1. I liked what the author had to say here. He distinguishes the month to month interest accruing debt from the bills that are paid in full each month. After all, any service you buy that sends a bill is debt until it’s paid, right? Looking forward to the next in this series.

All about finance suggested 13 Ways to Earn Extra Money on The Side. An interesting list, although I can help but wonder if a few of the items need a proper license, such as cutting hair. But of 13, there’s sure to be a couple ideas to help to raise some money.

I’d like to close this week with a request that you take a visit and consider being one of the Friends of Bella. I am doing what I can to get her story out there.

Have a great week.
Joe

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